a 180 is pretty much a stretched 130, only its not as long as you say wraith is. It cant fit a pair of 130 mags.
Also, just thinking random, have you stuck something in the top and bottom plates to keep the mags in inplace? Like how the spring clip does in 130 motors. Since this, you can take apart, all you really need is a small ridge or something for them to sit against, keeping it away from the armature.
Also, stick a fat comm on instead of a normal one. Their more effecient aswell.
I reaaaaally like it so far. Just the easyness of being able so simply unscrew it is nice. Makes my life easier right now... :lol:
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As far as size of the motor goes, WRAITH is really of it's own species. It shares the shaft size,comutator assembly, and armature laminations with the 130. so in a way it is a stretched 130 rotating assembly that utillizes 4 magnets and 4 brushes. A stock 130 stage 1 has 14 laminations that comprise the armature, WRAITH has.........45 ...... that is like putting three stage 1 motors inline with each other. The general idea behind the design was to build a 130 3 times as long with quad mags and brushes. Other criteria set in concept was to be heat efficient ,modular,adaptable, upgradeable,and interchangeable for custom color and styling options of the end user.
Everything was modeled in autocad 2007, then rendered and rigged in inventor 10. postwork done in psp7 ......Solidworks does great at visulizations IF you have photoworks to go with it, it is a plugin sold seperatly.
Nice designs. What program did you use? I know it isn't SolidWorks, due to the fact that your design actually looks realistic. Rhino 3d? if so, i am very envious.
Yes,it would. The first design challenge would be miniturizing the complex dampening systems used in those envirorments. Thats where the real magic happens in that truck.
Thanks for the tip. I have the baseplate, toplate and R/L block files sent off for rapid prototyping already,and i'm finishing up the endbells. I have serveral old motors around in wich to salvage laminations and parts from. Magnets, shaft stock, and brushes will be ordered this week. The first prototype will be rough but working hopefully within a 3 week window. The design will evolve.
TESTING? what are the benchmarks and criteria most commonly used and trusted?
You should also (in the event you produce these) do custom amount of turns. A person you need to talk to is Ted from freestyle xmods. Shoot him an email- ted@freestylexmods.com. Hes currently not in business, but is one of the leading motor builders here. He could help you out the most while designing this.
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Good point about the brushes, I didn't think about using larger scale designs. Primarialy this design is based on a stage 1 motor that I reverse engineered (along with a complete 1G chassis) for a class I assist with at the local collage dealing with advanced visualization and design techniques. The final assignment of that class was to revise design issues and/or develop a upgrade product for the 1G xmod. Needless to say, I became a expert at 1G design and function right down to the e.p. boards and wiring,as well as, addressing several needed manufacturing deficeincies.
Wheel wobble, Rx interferiance and resonence (a major cause in my opinion of glitching and pcb failure), A viable concept for a 4 wheel independent double wishbone suspension upgrade kit (complete with adjustable geometry), Lextan xmod body reproduction, A adjustible width/length chassis for 1/25th 1/24th conversions, A dragster rear suspension upgrade (complete with narrowed rear mechinisims alowing use of MUCH wider tires), A cellphone/ transmiter retrofit kit and many other memorable final assignments were assessed ,graded, and critiqued by the professor and I. There where the flops too though, one involving a serious eye injury and a case involving crash testing from a 7 story building. The data on that crash died with the crash subject as the telemetry equipment used dindn't survive the impact either (estimated at 96 mph range if i recall),the team did recive a passing grade for the morbid havoc and mangled aftermath that they forensicaly analized in a "plane crash investigator style" attempting to salvage some insight into the relm of plastic vrs. concrete physics.
The input of the board members is welcome in the ongoing development of this project, as it has became a hobby for me. I belive there is alot of talent and creativity here.
wow, my engineering/drafting class has all BUT psp7 and the photoworks plug in for solidworks. Great attention to detail on the parts.
^ACCURATE SCALE/ WRAITH COMPARISONS^
I will get a veiw of the magnet mounting solution up shortly.
-Holds though- :)
Ill wait.
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Hold that thought .........im generating some new images
a 180 is pretty much a stretched 130, only its not as long as you say wraith is. It cant fit a pair of 130 mags.
Also, just thinking random, have you stuck something in the top and bottom plates to keep the mags in inplace? Like how the spring clip does in 130 motors. Since this, you can take apart, all you really need is a small ridge or something for them to sit against, keeping it away from the armature.
Also, stick a fat comm on instead of a normal one. Their more effecient aswell.
I reaaaaally like it so far. Just the easyness of being able so simply unscrew it is nice. Makes my life easier right now... :lol:
__________________
"None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
:)
As far as size of the motor goes, WRAITH is really of it's own species. It shares the shaft size,comutator assembly, and armature laminations with the 130. so in a way it is a stretched 130 rotating assembly that utillizes 4 magnets and 4 brushes. A stock 130 stage 1 has 14 laminations that comprise the armature, WRAITH has.........45 ...... that is like putting three stage 1 motors inline with each other. The general idea behind the design was to build a 130 3 times as long with quad mags and brushes. Other criteria set in concept was to be heat efficient ,modular,adaptable, upgradeable,and interchangeable for custom color and styling options of the end user.
Everything was modeled in autocad 2007, then rendered and rigged in inventor 10. postwork done in psp7 ......Solidworks does great at visulizations IF you have photoworks to go with it, it is a plugin sold seperatly.
Nice designs. What program did you use? I know it isn't SolidWorks, due to the fact that your design actually looks realistic. Rhino 3d? if so, i am very envious.
so is this a 180 sized motor? Great idea for the Quad brush design
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Yes,it would. The first design challenge would be miniturizing the complex dampening systems used in those envirorments. Thats where the real magic happens in that truck.
It'd be awesome to see some off-road truck suspension similar to this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkCW9qJKD98
Thanks for the tip. I have the baseplate, toplate and R/L block files sent off for rapid prototyping already,and i'm finishing up the endbells. I have serveral old motors around in wich to salvage laminations and parts from. Magnets, shaft stock, and brushes will be ordered this week. The first prototype will be rough but working hopefully within a 3 week window. The design will evolve.
TESTING? what are the benchmarks and criteria most commonly used and trusted?
You should also (in the event you produce these) do custom amount of turns. A person you need to talk to is Ted from freestyle xmods. Shoot him an email- ted@freestylexmods.com. Hes currently not in business, but is one of the leading motor builders here. He could help you out the most while designing this.
__________________
"None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
:)
Good point about the brushes, I didn't think about using larger scale designs. Primarialy this design is based on a stage 1 motor that I reverse engineered (along with a complete 1G chassis) for a class I assist with at the local collage dealing with advanced visualization and design techniques. The final assignment of that class was to revise design issues and/or develop a upgrade product for the 1G xmod. Needless to say, I became a expert at 1G design and function right down to the e.p. boards and wiring,as well as, addressing several needed manufacturing deficeincies.
Wheel wobble, Rx interferiance and resonence (a major cause in my opinion of glitching and pcb failure), A viable concept for a 4 wheel independent double wishbone suspension upgrade kit (complete with adjustable geometry), Lextan xmod body reproduction, A adjustible width/length chassis for 1/25th 1/24th conversions, A dragster rear suspension upgrade (complete with narrowed rear mechinisims alowing use of MUCH wider tires), A cellphone/ transmiter retrofit kit and many other memorable final assignments were assessed ,graded, and critiqued by the professor and I. There where the flops too though, one involving a serious eye injury and a case involving crash testing from a 7 story building. The data on that crash died with the crash subject as the telemetry equipment used dindn't survive the impact either (estimated at 96 mph range if i recall),the team did recive a passing grade for the morbid havoc and mangled aftermath that they forensicaly analized in a "plane crash investigator style" attempting to salvage some insight into the relm of plastic vrs. concrete physics.
The input of the board members is welcome in the ongoing development of this project, as it has became a hobby for me. I belive there is alot of talent and creativity here.
DRAVEN
Very nice. hope you get it to function properly. the EGR brush config would be better though
I'm really diggin the built in heat sink, and the fact you can simply unscrew the endbell (opposed to just prying it off...)
Hope you get production
Later,
RedSXmodder
one word, "Delicious "
thats the motor im buying soon so i can use the can
Have you thought of improving the brushes design area....seems a little outdated when you have something like this coming out.
http://www.egrracing.com/shop/index.php?main_page=news&date=2007-04-18
That takes the 1/10th racing motor and rescales it for us micro users...I'd say it's something you should integrate.
Thanks to ph2t for locating this...
P.S. Can you resize your pic...kind of big. :wink:
8O great candy then :lol: