for my experiences wen im not making a new model body i drift 90 percent of the time i just locked my rear diff and it works very good once u get used to it you don have to worry about being unstable once you have your spring the way you want them i run soft in front medium in the back....

these guys r mad at drifting but i think there using mostly mini z iknow 2 have xmods cause "in the making" it says so
http://www.ts-tuning.com/vid.html

a tutorial video? :wink: now you're just making my job difficult. :lol:

don't see why not though, i'd just have to take the front diff out of the evo and see what for.

i like only having to use half the throttle most of the time, then just FLICK it a lil to get her good nd sideways. I gotta get a vid soon, show off some Drift King skills.

Soon i will take everyone to Adster's Skool of Driving........

Maybe color0 can also make a tut vid for RWD drifting.......

just like real cars, there are dozens of approaches to getting that slide. you can mess with suspension, power, tires, etc.

messing with power is fun though, you get to learn how to use that trigger finger properly.

I tried putting a few pennies under the hood and some clay, its works awesome but seriously affected my run time. definitely not worth the sacrafice in my opinion.

Hey SpeedRacer05, it doesnt really sound like you know what youre talking about, no offense but you come in here trying to tell us how to do things and most of your information is biased or just plain incorrect.

Your list is terribly inaccurate. the only thing you need for drifting is the drift kit. a stage one will get you goin on stock FETs with a hard compound tire.
Liths are amazing for any type of racing but then frying the RS motors isnt too difficult. so you upgrade the motor to something better, then eventually youre in the same boat as me, all i wana do is drift but now my skyline has too much power to drift, half throttle on the low setting and im throwin down kansai's like its my job!!!

point is there is no right set up for drifting. give me a bone stock car and a roll of electical tape and i'll show you that.

PS. instead of gettin neos for the S2, get spinbrush mags and take a few winds off the motor, dont bother with the neos unless youre gettin a bb can and carbon brushes. youll burn up that S2 and possibly your FETs in no time.

you need a cameraman, that's all.

it is a little uncontrolled though, see if you can find space for a set layout, like figure-eights or something.

[My video 35s long]

I'm a novice drifter, it's more sliding around than anything else.

Iv got my rsx to drift with the following stuff:

soft tires on front hard on rear
stiff springs on front medium on read
st1 drag motor
AWD
Bearings

it drifts quite nicely but sometimes spins out.

I cant drift my rsx to save my life ! its rwd with stage 2 drift , should i have stage 1 drift ?
where should i put the betteries to help ?
the only thing touched is the motor (st2) and recharables (1000MaH) and thats it.
what should i buy to make it drift in a tight corner (living room floor) ??

i found that if you put electical tape on the back tires and soft or slick tires in the front you can drift easier cause you still have a bit oftraction in the front wheels so you can still turn a bit and the back wheels has less because of the tape and the back end slides out more

3 months and 10 days late. LOL!

yea the new xmods are a whole lot beter for drift right out of the box i had a gen 1 with a load of upgrades and stuff and my freinds gen 2 smoked mine right out of the box so i went and bought one but i foung that drifting in a small patch of dirts the best surface for a rwd car thats what i use tell i can get awd for my new car

niiice!

i'm buying some iwaver tires off of toyeast. narrow 50's in front, wide 40's in rear.

Haha, btw, what tires are you gonna be using? Just some RS ones?

i suggest you give me a couple days to fix my 350Z; then i'll go RWD drift with it. -edit- make that a couple weeks, forgot i haven't gotten my tires yet.

also, doing what you're not supposed to is basically the spirit of drifting, isn't it? therefore, i do what you don't do and attempt to use RWD.

actually, dude, i was watching the vids the other day; they're like initial-d style drifts, not that much of an angle but almost as fast as normal racing. that's definitely a good thing if i want to race knightowl :lol:

RWD Aint gonna happen? I suggest you see color's vids, i mean, it was his first few trys with it, but i am sure he's gotten better. As for stock xmod, i think that guy was smoking something. :lol:

alright guys. Drifting with a stock xmod setup isnt gonna happen. Nor is Rwd drifting. The stability is just not there on the xmod frame. And then again not in alot of other scales too. The 1:10 Scale nitro drifter cars have to have AWD in order to drift too. Its a requirement in fact. So its better to stop unsuccessfully trying to drift a setup that isn't going to work and get the AWD kit. its not tht xpnsive. Good drifting with an xmod requires AWD, Stage2 motor, and bearings. Without bearings this car is shit. the plastic fillers are garbage. To drift an xmod like a car, many times the size of them, they would need lithiums, and at least the tight turns mod to perform realisticly in a drift. after that you have some serious power. I just got stacked fet's, tight turns, CF driveshaft, larger motor wire, lithium pro kit, and neodymium magnets for my white Stage2 RS motor.

actually, when i did the two cells in front, i turned on concrete and it spun all the way around.

month old topic.

anyhow, i'd like to rebut your last statement; having lots of weight in the front is the only thing that can pull the front end of a rwd xmod around; no weight up front is like drifting an F1 car. think you can do that? :)

if u put 2 much weight in the front of the xmod, u will make your xmod have understeer, which is basicly the oposite of drifting, which is controlled oversteer. Plus, if most of the weight of the xmod is in the front, the rear would have very little traction, and if u r drifting w/ rwd, your xmod would be really slow 'cause of the lack of traction.

well there is front wheel drive, but I dont knw if u can drift with it, i heard its good for drifting though.

my bads i havent been online for like a year but my friend bought his xmod yesterday so i rekindeld my passion lol(excuse my wrong typing)
well i think ppl get to involved with these little cars ..when i had my skyline (hard spring all around 4deg tie rod stage2 drift and i tightend the rear diff) in my hall way i would drift it around the corner and usualy with out spining out the when we were plying with his car i tried but i couldent do it ..... so i guess it takes practice

Front wheel drive drifting on a xmod is near non-existent. RWD is possible but much more tricky, AWD is the simplest way for a xmod to drift.

BEST XMOD DRIFT VIDOE OF ALL TIME! http://www.secret.ne.jp/~ros/miniz/movie/xmodz.wmv
THEY'RE SICK

-got this from Rcmod, VTEC, thanks for the find-

ALSO- What about a Front wheel Drive car? thats a drift machine!

If any of you ever did a pine wood derby when you were little, you might remember the weights that you could glue to your car. You can just cut off how ever many blocks you need and hot glue them under your hood.

loflmfao. i literally felon the floor laughing :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :)

1) dead thread; watch yourself :)

2) yes, FR cars are most popular in the real world... in the xmod world however, all the cars are MR. not the best news in the world, so we add AWD to make up for it.

3) it's possible to drift a RWD xmod or mini-z, it just takes a lot of caution and a good set of electronics. in RWD form, the xmod actually doesn't drift as well as the iwaver i have; the iwaver is more stable.

Judging from Gran Turismo 3 (very scientific isn't it? :wink: ), Front engine Rear drive is the most common layout for drifting. The vehicle is more balanced this way and therefore easier to drift. 4WD is easy to drift cause it has the ability to regain traction on all 4 wheels quickly, so any spin out can be considered a drift.

Mid Engine Rear Drive on the other hand is tougher to drift since the most of the vehicle weight is in the middle-rear portion of the vehicle and not much in the front (case of the xmod). When the vehicle breaks loose, the weight turns it into momentum. Since the front is lacking so much weight, it tends to "go with the flow" and be pulled into a spin from rear momentum.

If you have either Gran Turismo 2 or 3, give it a shot and you'll see what i'm talking about. :)

maybe not. an AWD car with the drift kit is basically a rally car; and if you've ever seen/driven one, these cars can go totally sideways, sometimes a little backwards, and they don't spin out.

RWD takes so much more caution, it will cause a headache in certain circumstances :lol: you can only go so far, and when you start to accelerate out of the corner you have to watch yourself, otherwise you'll end up spinning out right at the exit.

one note though; whereas in AWD you look for reducing rear traction, for RWD you look for increasing rear traction and reducing front traction, so you can get more angle without spinning out (and throttle-steer as well :lol:).

Drifting is just this: A sport where a driver sees how well they can control their vehicle. It isn't about power (too much is bad), speed (even worse than too much power), or anything else, it is all about control. As for the AWD/RWD debate, AWD is good if your just starting or like to not get a headache from trying to keep your car in the drift. If you have the experience and have a car that is setup right, it can drift better than any AWD car.

For my Supra, I didn't do any mechanical enhancements to make it a drift machine. I simply used the Tire & Body Shine from the RadioShack RC Care Kit (#64-1201) on hard slicks. The Supra fishtails like crazy on wood, linoleum and thin carpeting.

trust me, i know i did. it's probably temporary overheating, but after the 3rd set of batteries the motor would not run because it was just way too hot.

pray for my stage 1 man, i'm gonna see if i can shoot a vid (albeit crappy) today. :lol:

How do you over heat a stage 1? You only run a 6 cell. Even li-ions can't over heat a stage 1 motor!

yessir... i'll get new tape on the front and find a new motor... i overheated the stage 1 white yesterday, dunno if it still functions :?

So you can drift Rear wheel? Post a Video soon man!

i dunno... it does slide, but i personally think it's kinda cheezy, like trying to drift a tricycle. :)

edit: for rwd drifting, put hard treads on the back and tape the front rims. works fine for me.

i drive mine alot in the garage which has a somewhat dusty floor and i found having a front wheel drive set up with soft treads on the front and hard slicks on the rear make for some pretty cool maneuvers.

my 2 cents on the subject..

lithiums, stage 2, and AWD, cheezman :lol:

feinting with RWD is like asking to spin out... it's 'right-left-right' as fast as you can, and you'll probably still spin out.

I find the "dirt drop" works for Xmods. For those of you who don't know. That's when you get the rear of the car on dirt or grass to lose traction in the rear wheels, then you just counter steer your way through it. It's not very easy though, but fun when its done.

The best way to drift is Feinting. All drifting is is just a quick hand and throttle control.

LOL for those of you with li-ions and a stage 2 drift motor (Like myself)... try drifting, It's ALOT of fun!

I found drifting with RWD is very difficult... especially on a new slab for a house.. there is just the right amount of concrete dust to slide the car perfectly... if i knew how to drift good. i have seen weights for sale at hobby shops for the pinewood derby cars and also try fishing bait shops or wal-mart fishing section. oh.. dont do the new constrution idea if your picky about a clean car.. it makes every thing white and dirty.. lol

stage 2 is plenty of motor for most people.

oh, and one more thing. more weight = more inertia = more time to react. i've already added two cells and four dimes... i'm gonna find lead weights somewhere and make those work somehow.

and more weight on the front is good too. i'm filling in spaces in the front bumper with clay, and in time i will move both of the extra cells to the front. this will move the weight bias farther to the front, maybe around 60/40. this will help lots with moving the front end around the corner.

and while i'm on the topic: the 350Z will be getting a makeover soon. no more black-on-orange body kit, i'll be going back to a sleeper look, making subtle overfenders, modifying the stock front bumper a little, making a rear lip spoiler and a more subtle rear bumper. then dark metallic blue.

while on the topic of drifting what is the best aftermarket drifitng motor? my next car is going to be a drifter so i was jw

I'll be waiting to see! You never reall see enough good Xmod drifting vids... Folks need to make some!

well, considering that my hardwood floor is not very clean, AND i only have rwd, the S1 white on 7.2v is actually much more than enough.

it's just fun as hell to see how sideways i can get without spinning out. :D

so far, i've nailed one or two scandinavian flicks, and boy was i pleased with myself... usually i either spin out, or the drift angle's nothing to be proud of. i know i'm not on traction, because the car is turning but my wheels are straight, but it's not noticeable enough unless i get a close-up vid.

with the flick i managed to actually drift a u-turn around a post-it note... when i perfect it i'll post a vid.

Feinting... Damn, I can't believe that I spelled that incorrectly... NOOB!

Anyhow, Feinting mixed with powering over is really a good way to do it... Just to elaborate on what color0 said...

Say you're turning left... swing right off the throttle, then snap back to the left, full throttle... From there it's all about throttle control... Fun as hell once you can get it down...

color0, this is not a diss or a flame, but can you really get it that sideways with the stage1 motor??? You got some serious skills... With the XMod anyway :wink:

i can, but i gotta be fast as hell, making sure i have less than half throttle when i flick the car. then i countersteer in desparation and pray :)

i found that drifting with an RWD car is hard. i can't even come close to doing a scandanivian flick with mine.

feint drift: say if i wanted to turn left. i would swing the car to the right first, then swing left, and so the rear wheels would break traction and slide out. i'd then have to control the throttle carefully (which i can't) to keep the right amount of slip all throughout the turn.

basically... left feint drift = right slightly, left quickly, right countersteer
and vice versa.

one more thing: more weight is good. more weight = more inertia = slower reflexes = more time for driver to react. just be sure that weight is as low as possible.