drag racing

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lilG_rsx
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whats the best spring combination for drag racing and whats the best combo for good turns

CowboySiR03
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Re: drag racing

...and that was the last chance for this topic. :wink:

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Re: drag racing

Maxaxle wrote:
[quote:9155945a0c="Mongo"][quote:9155945a0c="ashrimp"]how many times is this topic going to be bumped? :roll:

Who elected you as forum police? :roll:


He DOES have a point, ashrimp...

Your certainly not one to talk. :roll:

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Re: drag racing

Mongo wrote:
[quote:acfaddd531="ashrimp"]how many times is this topic going to be bumped? :roll:

Who elected you as forum police? :roll:


He DOES have a point, ashrimp...

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Re: Drag

BlackSunshine wrote:
I would reccomend useing the drag or drift motor for dragging and putting the stock spring sall the way around, theyre weaker than stiff but stiffer than medium so that way the supension gives and does not strain your motor because with the weak xmod motors they are not gonna pop wheelies like a real drag car and be sure to glue your soft slicks all the wy around to the rim

thank you, yet another thing we know. by the way, these motors arent straind all the time. ur idea of strain is anytime they need to accelerate it seems.

also, just a hint, a post of ur set up, especialy if u start a new topic is a NO NO. they end up in flame wars. look at teh various locked threads.

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I would reccomend useing the drag or drift motor for dragging and putting the stock spring sall the way around, theyre weaker than stiff but stiffer than medium so that way the supension gives and does not strain your motor because with the weak xmod motors they are not gonna pop wheelies like a real drag car and be sure to glue your soft slicks all the wy around to the rim

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Re: drag racing

Mongo wrote:
[quote:f650d032fe="ashrimp"]how many times is this topic going to be bumped? :roll:

Who elected you as forum police? :roll:

I don't know, but what I do know is that, that is a very sweet Willies (sp), I did a model of that.

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Re: drag racing

ashrimp wrote:
how many times is this topic going to be bumped? :roll:

Who elected you as forum police? :roll:

ashrimp
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Re: drag racing

how many times is this topic going to be bumped? :roll:

kittysniper101
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Re: drag racing

looks pretty nice mas, mind posting some more pics?

nel1990
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Re: drag racing

finally someone made a good willys
not like that other piece of crap in the third annual xmod car show

nel1990
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Re: drag racing

moddersunited wrote:
for drag u want softs in back and hard in fornt
turning medium in back soft in fornt
drifting hard in back soft in front

actually for drag you the opposite :wink:

Mas
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Re: drag racing

Awww Yesss, Drag Racing, Now thats what race'ns about. :P

I've been working on a Drags Only Gen1 car that has stock springs in the front and in the rear but as you can see, it has a custom chassis and some pretty tall tires in the rear. The chassis has been lengthend to 4.2 inches so it’s hard to tell how it’s going to handle at this point in its construction. I've only run this chassis with no body on it so far but it hooks up real good until it hits the higher speeds and then it seems to almost start wobbling in the suspension. I'm running 4 AAA's soldered together right now and it doesn't seem to have the same problem, but before I installed the AAA’s I tried a pair of Li-ion's that I tie-wrapped to the top of the stock electronics package and it was just too fast and unstable on the top end to keep it punched long enough to see just how fast it would go with the stage 2 and no body on it. It was at that point I decided to go with some real RC radio equipment and do away with the stock EP.
I haven't got the right size Li-ions in it yet cause I am short on funds so I’ve just been testing with the 4 AAA's for now and it's been fine at full throttle. I've got some square shaped Li-ions on my “want list” because unfortunately the regular double A size Li-ion's I have are too big around and won't fit between the Willys body and the radio gear to be able to mount the Li-ion's on the chassis so I’m out of luck for now. I guess it’s all about doing the “cross your fingers thing” and just hope that the suspension will work okay after mounting the new style batteries at the lower center of gravity and mounting the body will help take care of the instability problem at high speeds that it has running the Li-ion's. Another thing is how to gear it to get the right amount of top end speed for the scale quarter mile and not be too slow or fast off the line, and Oh yea, just what is the scale quarter mile? Can someone let this old fart in on what it is? Maybe I'm staying on the throttle too long and it should be geared different or something.

Anyway, here are a couple of shots of how it is coming along. If you have any thoughts on the subject please let me know what ya think.

This is what the chassis looked like with the stock Electronics Package.

This is what it looks like with the body mounted and hood up.

This is what it looks like now with the Futaba servo, LRP Speed Control, and the Airtronics receiver radio package.

I hope Ya"ll Like it.

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texan_idiot25
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Re: drag racing

how about a modified 280 motor with some heavy electircal upgrades to get it rollin? can u say TORQUE

im still doing the research on it now though.

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Re: drag racing

I'm now using reds in the front.

CCMViper
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Re: drag racing

Drag Racing is what I'm best at. I prefer using yellow springs in the back and stock in the front. I have it on my two drag cars, one has a litieum setup and the other is a 6-cell. I don't bottom out.

jonnyc
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Re: drag racing

I would definately say tht u should use stiff all around, with as high Mah lith ion (try and get 1000Mah) batteries you can find, The car nearly takes off lol. try and keep all the cars weight at the back of the car.

waxedbluesubaru
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Re: drag racing

look man with the aaa's u had more weight its true, but with li-ion's u have 2-3x the power of conventional aaa's . & it depends on the tires if ur tires grip the ground fast enough it will bottom out the rear suspension cuz my skyline did it b4 it died. so yea its possible to bottom out in a li-ion xmod with the right tires

fastcivic
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Re: drag racing

I go stiff all around too.. I used a sway bar for a while, but it began to hold the wheels unevenly and made the front right wheel stay off the ground.

CapnBoost
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Re: drag racing

i would go stiff all the way around unless you have grip issues. i don't know if xmods really squat enough to make a grip difference but if it's too soft you'll drag the back end which won't help you any.

fastcivic
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Re: drag racing

You can also get the tie rod from atomic mods that is 0 degree...

DJdevynator
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Re: drag racing

i use stiff all the way around too

TeamJP
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Re: drag racing

Stiff suspension all round........ :)

Renegade_Of_Funk
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Re: drag racing

Soft rear, stiff front. Pull the batteries back as far as you can, so the weight is in the back.

backdr1ft
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Re: drag racing

Old topic, but yeah. He has it.. Dont you pay attention in physic's cheezman?

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Re: drag racing

cheezman wrote:
[quote:317f6d27d4="backdr1ft"][quote:317f6d27d4="CombatWombat"]Doesnt make any difference. There is little to no weight transfer to deal with going in a straight line with an xmods.

Squeeze the trigger. Work on driving straight with very small steering adjustments. That will make more difference than the springs.

If you wanted to get fancy you could re-work the entire rear suspension setup to hook using rwd and bigger motors, but I doubt that's what you're asking.

"EL WRONGO POR FAVOR! "

With li-ions, you can bottom out a car, easily off the line..

"EL WRONGO POR FAVOR! "

How the hell are you ganna bottom out when there is less weight on the suspension than 4-6 AAA?

I would just use hard springs all around.

With a Li ion powered Xmod (and especially one with a nuke engine or 130 engine) will rocket to about 30 MPH in 1 second. Weight is multiplied many times under such extreme accelerative forces.

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Re: drag racing

backdr1ft wrote:
[quote:9cfb56af5d="CombatWombat"]Doesnt make any difference. There is little to no weight transfer to deal with going in a straight line with an xmods.

Squeeze the trigger. Work on driving straight with very small steering adjustments. That will make more difference than the springs.

If you wanted to get fancy you could re-work the entire rear suspension setup to hook using rwd and bigger motors, but I doubt that's what you're asking.

"EL WRONGO POR FAVOR! "

With li-ions, you can bottom out a car, easily off the line..

"EL WRONGO POR FAVOR! "

How the hell are you ganna bottom out when there is less weight on the suspension than 4-6 AAA?

I would just use hard springs all around.

Sat, 07/09/2005 - 03:34
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Re: drag racing

CombatWombat wrote:
Doesnt make any difference. There is little to no weight transfer to deal with going in a straight line with an xmods.

Squeeze the trigger. Work on driving straight with very small steering adjustments. That will make more difference than the springs.

If you wanted to get fancy you could re-work the entire rear suspension setup to hook using rwd and bigger motors, but I doubt that's what you're asking.

"EL WRONGO POR FAVOR! "

With li-ions, you can bottom out a car, easily off the line..

Sat, 07/09/2005 - 02:23
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Re: drag racing

Doesnt make any difference. There is little to no weight transfer to deal with going in a straight line with an xmods.

Squeeze the trigger. Work on driving straight with very small steering adjustments. That will make more difference than the springs.

If you wanted to get fancy you could re-work the entire rear suspension setup to hook using rwd and bigger motors, but I doubt that's what you're asking.

Fri, 07/08/2005 - 23:20
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Re: drag racing

I love this part, not trying to flame but

EL WRONGO POR FAVOR! :lol:

Drag you want stiff suspension all around, and a stock or 1.5 tie rod.

and Best turns would be soft in front, yellow in back, 4.5 tie rod

Fri, 07/08/2005 - 19:47
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Re: drag racing

for drag u want softs in back and hard in fornt
turning medium in back soft in fornt
drifting hard in back soft in front